Subject	Well then, Why are they failing?
Posted by	eriksu9 on May 09, 2007 at 2:24 PM
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In Reply To	Kyles right... posted by Biz(MD) on May 09, 2007 at 01:48 PM
Message	We know what the stock motor can do and also know it will last forever as long as the proper pm is done. This is not about a stock motor. They speak for themselves. We also know that with increased hp comes increased stress which causes premature failure. That is all a no brainer. We also know if it is built correctly by an experienced technician, it will last longer than a motor built by an amateur. Again, It seems as though motors that are "built" by whoever do not last over say 60k if that! It seems as though other veterans here agree with the acception of Aliaz who has 40k but again, he hasnt reached 60k yet so... I believe his motor will be a tell tale sign. It seems as though he may know his s**t when it comes to building but I personally dont know him or know his background. If Guapo says Aliaz knows his shit about building then I believe him not including the fact that his motor @ 40k is more than most people are getting out of built blocks it seems.... :( ****472 RWHP/461 TORQUE ON 110 RACE GAS @21 PSI ****438 RWHP ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS/STOCK MOTOR**** ****429 FT LBS/TQ******************************* Also own: 2001 Harley Davidson Custom Softail Deuce 1997 Ford Explorer XLT V8 AWD 1993 300ZX 2+2 NA 1991 Yamaha YZ250 1985 Ford Bronco 3" lift, 35" Tires Sold: 1987 Nissan 300zx na(Z31) 1979 280ZX 2+2 1972 MGB 1968 Pontiac Firebird
Follow Ups	Looking for definitive answers on "Built" motor mileage. - eriksu9 08:56:02 05/09/07 I would venture most guys who went with Kyle@IPP's products. - brahmabull (CT) 09:17:10 05/09/07 Well, I won't get into his products for I am not a big - eriksu9 10:10:19 05/09/07 Personally, I feel that if are running 470rwhp and keeping - Scotts94z32 10:10:39 05/09/07 It seems like very often it is not a matter of how hard - AntiHero 10:23:01 05/09/07 poll for the issue - AntiHero 10:35:28 05/09/07 fixed link - Scotts94z32 13:13:58 05/09/07 Heat the engine up with a heat gun to avoid cold starts. - Scotts94z32 10:38:28 05/09/07 Agreed. Thanks sooo much. - eriksu9 10:49:56 05/09/07 I read in DSport (I think) about Z1 building a VQ - J-Mart 11:00:32 05/09/07 Yes that is done on all motors...... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 11:20:13 05/09/07 I believe AliaZ is approaching 40k on his motor. (n/m) - Guapo 10:24:28 05/09/07 Excellent. It helps when you are your own engine builder - Scotts94z32 10:36:06 05/09/07 yep :) - aliaZ 10:40:01 05/09/07 *and you know wtf you're doing (n/m) - Guapo 10:44:18 05/09/07 Yea, but how many full boost cycles has he had - AZHeat 15:03:41 05/09/07 Well, he has tracked it quite often and gotten more - Guapo 15:16:23 05/09/07 I did not see that post about a built motor w/ 70k - eriksu9 10:44:42 05/09/07 It was 80k miles, and was his car: - Scotts94z32 11:30:59 05/09/07 Cool, Thx for the info. (n/m) - eriksu9 12:42:27 05/09/07 This is exaclty what keeps me awake at night. Need input: - J-Mart 10:56:41 05/09/07 First year college student? - spicyZ 11:41:26 05/09/07 Thanks for the words, but I was more concerned w/ a build. - J-Mart 13:18:44 05/09/07 Sounds like you have it all figured out. Good luck with it (n/m) - spicyZ 14:31:41 05/09/07 better young than old (n/m) - ZiNnYc 02:31:50 05/10/07 Here is my take on the whole thing - Kyle(Houston) 11:19:24 05/09/07 if you had to... - AntiHero 11:45:34 05/09/07 Moreover, What is the warranty % on average of - eriksu9 11:56:57 05/09/07 Warranty depends on the shop and not the motor - Kyle(Houston) 13:24:37 05/09/07 That's my engine Kyle refers to as getting damaged. He - bbug 00:20:57 05/10/07 are you kidding me ? 35 % ? I'd hate to have a 5 % failure - ztunerz 16:41:15 05/09/07 Yes 35%. I'm not saying that is acceptable, - eriksu9 08:04:05 05/10/07 That is very easy - Kyle(Houston) 13:13:25 05/09/07 Kyles right... - Biz(MD) 13:48:35 05/09/07 BINGO.. (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 13:59:24 05/09/07 Well then, Why are they failing? - eriksu9 14:24:03 05/09/07 Who is "they"? - Kyle(Houston) 14:37:00 05/09/07 I am not sure what you are getting at but you asked - eriksu9 14:59:36 05/09/07 Well it all boils down to what you see - Kyle(Houston) 15:48:52 05/09/07 Rob's car runs great ... I dnk mileage but he says best - The Devils Z 18:22:42 05/09/07 Big 2nd. After the inital problems were found and fixed, - eriksu9 08:18:07 05/10/07 i think everyone should build their own motors >> - ztunerz 16:35:25 05/09/07 Harry ..that was funny .. .lol (n/m) - The Devils Z 18:23:19 05/09/07 i say check your rod bearings once a year - no problem :) (n/m) - ztunerz 16:32:43 05/09/07 Ash said the same thing to me a few years ago .. (n/m) - The Devils Z 18:23:58 05/09/07 built many motors with forged internals - ztunerz 16:30:18 05/09/07 Harry, what are your piston to wall clearance with the - AZHeat 16:40:37 05/09/07 i use exactly what wiesco suggests and adjust if NOS is - ztunerz 16:43:26 05/09/07 Awesome! Thats what I am looking for.... - eriksu9 08:21:48 05/10/07 Me. :-) 2+ years with no issues on Kyle's built motor. - 1BADTTZ (SoCal) 17:06:01 05/09/07
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